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Jamin at 22:18, 11 November 2025

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Jamin: /* Noun Phrases */

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Noun Phrases

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	For example, the phrase “with those three thin men from Zakalasrava who stole my book” would be assembled in the order:		For example, the phrase “with those three thin men from Zakalasrava who stole my book” would be assembled in the order:

	''…[[dum#Zjenav\|dum]] [[zjesrah#Zjenav\|zjesrahom]] [[dehla#Zjenav\|dehla]] [[djat#Zjenav\|djat]] [[Zakalasrava#Zjenav\|Zakalasravan]] [[zjai#Zjenav\|zjai]] [[kotresji#Zjenav\|~~kotresjiu~~]] [[la#Zjenav\|la]] [[butjat#Zjenav\|butjat]] [[qane#Zjenav\|qane]].''		''…[[dum#Zjenav\|dum]] [[zjesrah#Zjenav\|zjesrahom]] [[dehla#Zjenav\|dehla]] [[djat#Zjenav\|djat]] [[Zakalasrava#Zjenav\|Zakalasravan]] [[zjai#Zjenav\|zjai]] [[kotresji#Zjenav\|kotresju]] [[la#Zjenav\|la]] [[butjat#Zjenav\|butjat]] [[qane#Zjenav\|qane]].''

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Jamin: /* Ordinals and Compounds */

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Ordinals and Compounds

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	Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari qwekeru si uvuh''.		Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari qwekeru si uvuh''.

	Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]'', ~~though~~ when a numeral ends in '''–u''', ~~and~~ the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead ~~(it just sounds better)~~, as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.		Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]''; however, when a numeral ends in '''–u''', the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead, as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehru#Zjenav\|kehru]]'' + ''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]'' → ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' + ''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]'' → ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.

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Jamin: /* Ordinals and Compounds */

2023-09-22T15:32:02Z

Ordinals and Compounds

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	===Ordinals and Compounds===		===Ordinals and Compounds===
	Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari ~~qwakeru~~ si uvuh''.		Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari qwekeru si uvuh''.

	Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]'', though when a numeral ends in '''–u''', and the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead (it just sounds better), as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.		Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]'', though when a numeral ends in '''–u''', and the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead (it just sounds better), as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.

Jamin: /* Orthography (Romanization) */

2023-04-20T19:29:45Z

Orthography (Romanization)

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	\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| ae		\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| ae
	\|style="text-align: center;"\| /ɑɛ̯/		\|style="text-align: center;"\| /ɑɛ̯/
	\| like ⟨a⟩ in '''''father''''' followed by ⟨e⟩ in '''''egg'''''. (In some dialects, ⟨ae⟩ ~~this~~ is pronounced in the same manner as ⟨ai⟩, below.)		\| like ⟨a⟩ in '''''father''''' followed by ⟨e⟩ in '''''egg'''''. (In some dialects, ⟨ae⟩ is pronounced in the same manner as ⟨ai⟩, below.)
	\| '''''[[aegazjil#Zjenav\|aegazjil]]''''' ‘start’		\| '''''[[aegazjil#Zjenav\|aegazjil]]''''' ‘start’
	\| [ˈɑɛ̯ɡɑʒil]		\| [ˈɑɛ̯ɡɑʒil]
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	\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| ao		\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| ao
	\|style="text-align: center;"\| /ɑɔ̯/		\|style="text-align: center;"\| /ɑɔ̯/
	\| like ⟨a⟩ in '''''father''''' followed by ⟨aw⟩ in '''''awful'''''. (In some dialects, ⟨ao⟩ ~~this~~ is pronounced in the same manner as ⟨au⟩, below.)		\| like ⟨a⟩ in '''''father''''' followed by ⟨aw⟩ in '''''awful'''''. (In some dialects, ⟨ao⟩ is pronounced in the same manner as ⟨au⟩, below.)
	\| '''''[[nuqaor#Zjenav\|nuqaor]]''''' ‘seventh’		\| '''''[[nuqaor#Zjenav\|nuqaor]]''''' ‘seventh’
	\| [nuˈqɑɔ̯r]		\| [nuˈqɑɔ̯r]

Jamin: /* Animacy */

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Animacy

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	Conversely, some nouns which we might think of as alive are considered inanimate in Zjenav if they are a specific part of a larger animate system; for example: body parts (''[[ellavu]]'' ‘arm’, ''[[zuhluzj]]'' ‘head’, ''[[zaqsun]]'' ‘finger’) or parts of plants (''[[nazu]]'' ‘fruit’, ''[[djendra]]'' ‘leaf’, ''[[asrolu]]'' ‘stem’, ''[[ravu]]'' ‘root’, &c.)		Conversely, some nouns which we might think of as alive are considered inanimate in Zjenav if they are a specific part of a larger animate system; for example: body parts (''[[ellavu]]'' ‘arm’, ''[[zuhluzj]]'' ‘head’, ''[[zaqsun]]'' ‘finger’) or parts of plants (''[[nazu]]'' ‘fruit’, ''[[djendra]]'' ‘leaf’, ''[[asrolu]]'' ‘stem’, ''[[ravu]]'' ‘root’, &c.)

	Other normally inanimate nouns may be used in an animate sense for emphasis in poetic language or rhetoric, such as ''[[djindre]]'' ‘melody’ if it is particularly lively or moving, or ''[[~~zjivesj~~]]'' ‘light’ to describe certain intense shades or colours.		Other normally inanimate nouns may be used in an animate sense for emphasis in poetic language or rhetoric, such as ''[[djindre]]'' ‘melody’ if it is particularly lively or moving, or ''[[zivesj]]'' ‘light’ to describe certain intense shades or colours.

	There is a small subset of nouns which can be either animate or inanimate depending on their use. Herbs, spices, and harvested plants are animate while growing or in “plant form,” but inanimate when dried, prepared, harvested, or otherwise being used as food.		There is a small subset of nouns which can be either animate or inanimate depending on their use. Herbs, spices, and harvested plants are animate while growing or in “plant form,” but inanimate when dried, prepared, harvested, or otherwise being used as food.

Jamin: /* Animacy */

2022-12-06T00:11:35Z

Animacy

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	Zjenav’s primary noun (and pronoun) class system is one of animacy. This is simply the dividing of nouns into categories of animate and inanimate. This division is fairly intuitive: If it is alive, it is animate; otherwise, it is inanimate. There are, however, some exceptions and nuances. Many nouns we might think of as inanimate may be considered animate to the Rahavahi, particularly those which have certain spiritual significance or independent movement. Some examples of nouns which may be unexpectedly animate in Zjenav are: ''[[ugme]]'' ‘fire’, ''[[suzje]]'' ‘wind’, ''[[emposjer]]'' ‘alcohol’, ''[[zjoran]]'' ‘the sea, ''[[rehazj]]'' ‘the moon’, ''[[laedwohn]]'' ‘twilight’, ''[[nivul]]'' ‘river’, ''[[hasjan]]'' ‘the sun’, ''[[isjil]]'' ‘star’, and ''[[dimma]]'' ‘smoke’.		Zjenav’s primary noun (and pronoun) class system is one of animacy. This is simply the dividing of nouns into categories of animate and inanimate. This division is fairly intuitive: If it is alive, it is animate; otherwise, it is inanimate. There are, however, some exceptions and nuances. Many nouns we might think of as inanimate may be considered animate to the Rahavahi, particularly those which have certain spiritual significance or independent movement. Some examples of nouns which may be unexpectedly animate in Zjenav are: ''[[ugme]]'' ‘fire’, ''[[suzje]]'' ‘wind’, ''[[emposjer]]'' ‘alcohol’, ''[[zjoran]]'' ‘the sea, ''[[rehazj]]'' ‘the moon’, ''[[laedwohn]]'' ‘twilight’, ''[[nivul]]'' ‘river’, ''[[hasjan]]'' ‘the sun’, ''[[isjil]]'' ‘star’, and ''[[dimma]]'' ‘smoke’.

	Conversely, some nouns which we might think of as alive are considered inanimate in Zjenav if they are a specific part of a larger animate system; for example: body parts (''[[ellavu]]'' ‘arm’, ''[[zuhluzj]]'' ‘head’, ''[[zaqsun]]'' ‘finger’) or parts of plants (''[[nazu]]'' ‘fruit’, ''[[djendra]]'' ‘leaf’, ''[[asrolu]]'' ‘stem’, ravu ‘root’, &c.)		Conversely, some nouns which we might think of as alive are considered inanimate in Zjenav if they are a specific part of a larger animate system; for example: body parts (''[[ellavu]]'' ‘arm’, ''[[zuhluzj]]'' ‘head’, ''[[zaqsun]]'' ‘finger’) or parts of plants (''[[nazu]]'' ‘fruit’, ''[[djendra]]'' ‘leaf’, ''[[asrolu]]'' ‘stem’, ''[[ravu]]'' ‘root’, &c.)

	Other normally inanimate nouns may be used in an animate sense for emphasis in poetic language or rhetoric, such as ''[[djindre]]'' ‘melody’ if it is particularly lively or moving, or ''[[zjivesj]]'' ‘light’ to describe certain intense shades or colours.		Other normally inanimate nouns may be used in an animate sense for emphasis in poetic language or rhetoric, such as ''[[djindre]]'' ‘melody’ if it is particularly lively or moving, or ''[[zjivesj]]'' ‘light’ to describe certain intense shades or colours.

Jamin at 15:24, 5 December 2022

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Jamin: /* Orthography (Romanization) */

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Orthography (Romanization)

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	\| Used as a placeholder for vowels in initial position and in certain other environments. Not transcribed in Romanization.		\| Used as a placeholder for vowels in initial position and in certain other environments. Not transcribed in Romanization.
	\| ~~'''''[[i#Zjenav\|i]]''''' ‘to be located’~~		\|
	\| ~~[i]~~		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: center"\| [[File:Zjenav-aleph-a.gif\|none\|alt=a]]		\|style="text-align: center"\| [[File:Zjenav-aleph-a.gif\|none\|alt=a]]
	\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| a		\|style="font-size:large; text-align: center;"\| a
	\|style="text-align: center;"~~\| [[w:Open_back_unrounded_vowel~~\|/ɑ/]]		\|style="text-align: center;"\| /ɑ/
	\| as in '''''father'''''.		\| as in '''''father'''''.
	\| '''''[[aqeh#Zjenav\|aqeh]]''''' ‘child’		\| '''''[[aqeh#Zjenav\|aqeh]]''''' ‘child’

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	Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari qwekeru si uvuh''.		Compounds are created by simply stacking up the numbers from largest to smallest, with the last number separated by the conjunction '''''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]''''' (‘and’). E.g. ‘47’ = ''[[zjekeru#Zjenav\|zjekeru]]'' ‘40’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[nuqa#Zjenav\|nuqa]]'' ‘7’ → ''zjekeru si nuqa''. ‘625’ = ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]] [[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' ‘600’ + ''[[qwekeru#Zjenav\|qwekeru]]'' ‘20’ + ''[[si#Zjenav\|si]]'' ‘and’ + ''[[uvuh#Zjenav\|uvuh]]'' ‘5’ → ''alase tjari qwekeru si uvuh''.

	Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]'', ~~though~~ when a numeral ends in '''–u''', ~~and~~ the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead ~~(it just sounds better)~~, as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.		Most ordinal numbers are formed by adding the suffix '''''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]''''' to the number, e.g. ''[[djataor#Zjenav\|djataor]]'' ‘third’, ''[[uvuhaor#Zjenav\|uvuhaor]]'' ‘fifth’. Where a numeral ends in a vowel, the vowel is usually deleted, as in ''[[alasaor#Zjenav\|alasaor]]'' ‘sixth’ from ''[[alase#Zjenav\|alase]]''; however, when a numeral ends in '''–u''', the '''–ao–''' of the suffix is deleted instead, as in ''[[zjequr#Zjenav\|zjequr]]'' from ''[[zjequ#Zjenav\|zjequ]]''. When '''–r–''' occurs in the last syllable of a number, the '''–r''' of the suffix changes to '''–l''', as in ''[[kehru#Zjenav\|kehru]]'' + ''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]'' → ''[[kehrul#Zjenav\|kehrul]]'' and ''[[tjari#Zjenav\|tjari]]'' + ''[[-aor#Zjenav\|-aor]]'' → ''[[tjaraol#Zjenav\|tjaraol]]''. The ordinals for ‘one’ and ‘two’ are as irregular as “first” and “second” – they mean ‘closest to the front’ and ‘the following’, respectively.

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